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Old 02-18-2009, 04:55 PM
Arthur Tabachneck
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Default Re: can anybody help this problem

Lewis,

Many/most of us have no problem answering even the simplest of questions.
However, many of us would rather not seeing the list cluttered up with
homework questions and either simply ignore those we think are homework
or, sometimes, make a snide remark.

Okay, I'll agree that the snide remarks really aren't necessary (and,
sometimes, might even reinforce the OP's continuing behavior), but I would
think it safe to say that homework questions are frowned upon on SAS-L.

That's not to say the students' questions are frowned upon in and of
themselves but, rather, posts that appear to be asking others to do one's
homework (or work) for them.

Art
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:12:27 -0500, Lewis Jordan <lewjord@UGA.EDU> wrote:

>I don't understand why some listers post comments like that below to

questions they don't fully understand the problem to. Perhaps Kiran's
question was a snippet of a much bigger/detailed problem. How are these
comments useful and instructive? Where does it state that the list serv is
for "professionals" only who have an abundant knowledge of SAS?
>
>Granted, a lot of the questions posted on this list serve could be solved

by a search of the SAS documentation, SAS-L archives, snippets of code on
the web, or a little more effort on the questioners part. But when posted
to SAS-L, my thinking is that most people have exhausted all other options
and are looking for some genuine help.Although this isn't always the case.
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>I bring this topic up because I posted a question to SAS-L

(http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/...-l&D=0&P=27234)
that was seen by one lister as a "homework problem". Can you find the
snide comment/remark to my SAS-L post? (http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-
bin/wa?A2=ind0805b&L=sas-l&D=0&P=27234).
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>What this user didn't understand was that my question was a simple

example of what I really needed to do. And that was scan all text files on
a computer, identify them as sas files (not all sas files had the .sas
extension), and extract key strings identified by a key word. I received a
lot of great answers to this problem, and I even contacted those people
via email outside of SAS-L to thank them.
>
>So if a question seems overly simplistic, why not ignore it? Or, send me

an email with your chide remark and I'll reply stating "Oh yeah, that
question was WAY too easy. Your the best SAS programmer ever! You could
have solved that problem in the amount of time it took you to write that
rude comment!".
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>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:51:59 -0500
>>From: SAS_learner <proccontents@GMAIL.COM>
>>Subject: Re: can anybody help this problem
>>To: SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>
>>Hello Kiran,
>>
>>I am Just curious what school are you going ?? seems like good HW problem
>>
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>>On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:09 AM, <segukiran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> With out using proc summary i want to create a totalsum of each column
>>> by using datastep.Can anybody help this problem thanks,
>>> kiran.segu
>>>

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