Re: simple gui with SAS

Hi Alan,

I read somewhere that the V5 beta product will expire next March. Is that
true?

Regards - Jim.
--
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Jim.Groeneveld_AT_Vitatron.com (replace _AT_ by AT sign)
http://www.vitatron.com, http://home.hccnet.nl/jim.groeneveld

[common disclaimer]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:24:07 GMT, Alan Churchill <SASL001@SAVIAN.NET> wrote:

>Visual Studio Express (it?s free). Drag and drop development environment.
Hook into SAS via the built-in COM provider in Base SAS.
>
>Code provided upon request. It is also found on SAS's website and on SAS-L.
>
>Thanks,
>Alan
>Savian
>"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
>
>?
>nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
>Hi,
>I want to create a simple GUI for some programs. I have only base
>SAS avaiable ( v8 and v9). I will greatly appreciate your suggestions.
>Krishna
>
>[comp.soft-sys.sas]

The beta will bite it but the production version will be out by then. Microsoft has committed that the VSE line will be free for development. My understanding is that you can't use VSE for commercial code. I would treat it as an eval product even though it has no time limits ultimately and your code will run fine. If you like it as an IDE, feel it meets your needs, then licensing a more robust product such as Visual Studios 2005 (VS2005) would be the right thing to do imo.

If you need to do commercial work, VS2005 is there. VS2005 is rock-solid, btw. We use it every day and it works like a champ. No crashes yet and it is a beta 1 product.

BTW, Microsoft has scheduled a professional developer's conference (PDC) Sept 17th. This is to announce both SQL Server 2005 and VS 2005. We do not know dates of availability but the products are named. Hence 2005 is a go. We expect Sept to be launch dates if not sooner.

Thanks,
Alan
Savian
"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
?
nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
Hi Alan,

I read somewhere that the V5 beta product will expire next March. Is that
true?

Regards - Jim.
--
Y. (Jim) Groeneveld, MSc., Biostatistician, Vitatron b.v., NL
Jim.Groeneveld_AT_Vitatron.com (replace _AT_ by AT sign)
http://www.vitatron.com, http://home.hccnet.nl/jim.groeneveld

[common disclaimer]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:24:07 GMT, Alan Churchill wrote:

>Visual Studio Express (it?s free). Drag and drop development environment.
Hook into SAS via the built-in COM provider in Base SAS.
>
>Code provided upon request. It is also found on SAS's website and on SAS-L.
>
>Thanks,
>Alan
>Savian
>"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
>
>?
>nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
>Hi,
>I want to create a simple GUI for some programs. I have only base
>SAS avaiable ( v8 and v9). I will greatly appreciate your suggestions.
>Krishna
>
>[comp.soft-sys.sas]

[comp.soft-sys.sas]

Correction on what I stated after doing some more research (Thanks Roy). The VSE line has not been announced to be free permanently: no word is out one way or the other. It is free while in beta and is limited to non-commercial use while in beta. Final pricing and a final decision on whether it can be used in a commercial environment have not been set. ?

The only product in the express line announced as free indefinitely is SQL Server Express which replaces the MSDE engine.

Thanks,
Alan
Savian
"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"

nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
The beta will bite it but the production version will be out by then. Microsoft has committed that the VSE line will be free for development. My understanding is that you can't use VSE for commercial code. I would treat it as an eval product even though it has no time limits ultimately and your code will run fine. If you like it as an IDE, feel it meets your needs, then licensing a more robust product such as Visual Studios 2005 (VS2005) would be the right thing to do imo.

If you need to do commercial work, VS2005 is there. VS2005 is rock-solid, btw. We use it every day and it works like a champ. No crashes yet and it is a beta 1 product.

BTW, Microsoft has scheduled a professional developer's conference (PDC) Sept 17th. This is to announce both SQL Server 2005 and VS 2005. We do not know dates of availability but the products are named. Hence 2005 is a go. We expect Sept to be launch dates if not sooner.

Thanks,
Alan
Savian
"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
?
nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
Hi Alan,

I read somewhere that the V5 beta product will expire next March. Is that
true?

Regards - Jim.
--
Y. (Jim) Groeneveld, MSc., Biostatistician, Vitatron b.v., NL
Jim.Groeneveld_AT_Vitatron.com (replace _AT_ by AT sign)
http://www.vitatron.com, http://home.hccnet.nl/jim.groeneveld

[common disclaimer]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:24:07 GMT, Alan Churchill wrote:

>Visual Studio Express (it?s free). Drag and drop development environment.
Hook into SAS via the built-in COM provider in Base SAS.
>
>Code provided upon request. It is also found on SAS's website and on SAS-L.
>
>Thanks,
>Alan
>Savian
>"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
>
>?
>nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
>Hi,
>I want to create a simple GUI for some programs. I have only base
>SAS avaiable ( v8 and v9). I will greatly appreciate your suggestions.
>Krishna
>
>[comp.soft-sys.sas]

[comp.soft-sys.sas]

[comp.soft-sys.sas]

Ooooooops, I don't see this answer....

Stéphane.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] De la part de Alan
Churchill
Envoyé : vendredi 21 janvier 2005 18:29
À : SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Objet : Re: simple gui with SAS


Correction on what I stated after doing some more research (Thanks Roy). The
VSE line has not been announced to be free permanently: no word is out one
way or the other. It is free while in beta and is limited to non-commercial
use while in beta. Final pricing and a final decision on whether it can be
used in a commercial environment have not been set. ?

The only product in the express line announced as free indefinitely is SQL
Server Express which replaces the MSDE engine.

Thanks,
Alan
Savian
"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"

nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
The beta will bite it but the production version will be out by then.
Microsoft has committed that the VSE line will be free for development. My
understanding is that you can't use VSE for commercial code. I would treat
it as an eval product even though it has no time limits ultimately and your
code will run fine. If you like it as an IDE, feel it meets your needs, then
licensing a more robust product such as Visual Studios 2005 (VS2005) would
be the right thing to do imo.

If you need to do commercial work, VS2005 is there. VS2005 is rock-solid,
btw. We use it every day and it works like a champ. No crashes yet and it is
a beta 1 product.

BTW, Microsoft has scheduled a professional developer's conference (PDC)
Sept 17th. This is to announce both SQL Server 2005 and VS 2005. We do not
know dates of availability but the products are named. Hence 2005 is a go.
We expect Sept to be launch dates if not sooner.

Thanks,
Alan
Savian
"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
?
nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
Hi Alan,

I read somewhere that the V5 beta product will expire next March. Is that
true?

Regards - Jim.
--
Y. (Jim) Groeneveld, MSc., Biostatistician, Vitatron b.v., NL
Jim.Groeneveld_AT_Vitatron.com (replace _AT_ by AT sign)
http://www.vitatron.com, http://home.hccnet.nl/jim.groeneveld

[common disclaimer]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:24:07 GMT, Alan Churchill wrote:

>Visual Studio Express (it?s free). Drag and drop development
>environment.
Hook into SAS via the built-in COM provider in Base SAS.
>
>Code provided upon request. It is also found on SAS's website and on
>SAS-L.
>
>Thanks,
>Alan
>Savian
>"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
>
>?
>nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
>Hi,
>I want to create a simple GUI for some programs. I have only base SAS
>avaiable ( v8 and v9). I will greatly appreciate your suggestions.
>Krishna
>
>[comp.soft-sys.sas]

[comp.soft-sys.sas]

[comp.soft-sys.sas]

Stephanie,



On the .NET side, you can use the SAS COM local provider which is provided with Base SAS. I built my sample app using this provider.



.NET is absolutely free. You can code it in Notepad if you like. It is the editors that may cost money. On the Windows app side, there is the new Visual Studios Express line which I sent as a link. They are free for now (and may stay free but we don't know). Hence you can build for the next 6 months say w\o cost and your programs will always run free. The issue with it being used for commercial development has to do with the code being beta but I honestly don't see how that license issue could be enforced or would be enforced.



Microsoft also provides a free tool called Web Matrix for building websites in .NET. That tool is free today and has been free ever since it was released (several years back).



Since .NET is also open source (java is not btw), you can also find tools for it outside of Microsoft. IBM, for example, is allowing folks using its DB2 database to incorporate .NET functionality, Borland sells tools for .NET, and there is the Mono project to port .NET to Linux.



The final project can be downloaded from http://utilities.saviansoftware.com. I will place Randy's code there as soon as I have it and anyone else's as desired.





Hope this helps,

Alan

Savian

"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"







nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/<001201c50136$680a89b0$0200a8c0@CENTRAL>

Ooooooops, I don't see this answer....

St?phane.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : SAS(r) Discussion [mailto:SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] De la part de Alan
Churchill
Envoy? : vendredi 21 janvier 2005 18:29
? : SAS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Objet : Re: simple gui with SAS


Correction on what I stated after doing some more research (Thanks Roy). The
VSE line has not been announced to be free permanently: no word is out one
way or the other. It is free while in beta and is limited to non-commercial
use while in beta. Final pricing and a final decision on whether it can be
used in a commercial environment have not been set. ?

The only product in the express line announced as free indefinitely is SQL
Server Express which replaces the MSDE engine.

Thanks,
Alan
Savian
"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"

nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
The beta will bite it but the production version will be out by then.
Microsoft has committed that the VSE line will be free for development. My
understanding is that you can't use VSE for commercial code. I would treat
it as an eval product even though it has no time limits ultimately and your
code will run fine. If you like it as an IDE, feel it meets your needs, then
licensing a more robust product such as Visual Studios 2005 (VS2005) would
be the right thing to do imo.

If you need to do commercial work, VS2005 is there. VS2005 is rock-solid,
btw. We use it every day and it works like a champ. No crashes yet and it is
a beta 1 product.

BTW, Microsoft has scheduled a professional developer's conference (PDC)
Sept 17th. This is to announce both SQL Server 2005 and VS 2005. We do not
know dates of availability but the products are named. Hence 2005 is a go.
We expect Sept to be launch dates if not sooner.

Thanks,
Alan
Savian
"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
?
nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
Hi Alan,

I read somewhere that the V5 beta product will expire next March. Is that
true?

Regards - Jim.
--
Y. (Jim) Groeneveld, MSc., Biostatistician, Vitatron b.v., NL
Jim.Groeneveld_AT_Vitatron.com (replace _AT_ by AT sign)
http://www.vitatron.com, http://home.hccnet.nl/jim.groeneveld

[common disclaimer]

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:24:07 GMT, Alan Churchill wrote:

>Visual Studio Express (it?s free). Drag and drop development
>environment.
Hook into SAS via the built-in COM provider in Base SAS.
>
>Code provided upon request. It is also found on SAS's website and on
>SAS-L.
>
>Thanks,
>Alan
>Savian
>"Bridging SAS and Microsoft Technologies"
>
>?
>nntp://news.qwest.net/comp.soft-sys.sas/
>Hi,
>I want to create a simple GUI for some programs. I have only base SAS
>avaiable ( v8 and v9). I will greatly appreciate your suggestions.
>Krishna
>
>[comp.soft-sys.sas]

[comp.soft-sys.sas]

[comp.soft-sys.sas]


[comp.soft-sys.sas]