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C++ and Qt now making business news
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Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
seasoned_geek <roland@logikalsolutions.com> wrote:
> http://beta.fool.com/seasonedgeek/20...s-choice/1475/ "The days of paying for costly software upgrades are numbered. The PC will soon be obsolete. And BusinessWeek reports 70% of Americans are already using the technology that will replace it. Merrill Lynch calls it "a $160 billion tsunami." Computing giants including IBM, Yahoo!, and Amazon are racing to be the first to cash in on this PC-killing revolution. Yet, a small group of little-known companies have a huge head start. Get the full details on these companies, and the technology that is destroying the PC, in a free video from The Motley Fool. Enter your email address below to view this stunning video." Sounds like BS marketing to me. |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
On Feb 16, 7:04*am, Juha Nieminen <nos...@thanks.invalid> wrote:
> seasoned_geek <rol...@logikalsolutions.com> wrote: > >http://beta.fool.com/seasonedgeek/20...developers-cho... > > "The days of paying for costly software upgrades are numbered. The PC > will soon be obsolete. And BusinessWeek reports 70% of Americans are > already using the technology that will replace it. Merrill Lynch calls > it "a $160 billion tsunami." Computing giants including IBM, Yahoo!, > and Amazon are racing to be the first to cash in on this PC-killing > revolution. Yet, a small group of little-known companies have a huge > head start. Get the full details on these companies, and the > technology that is destroying the PC, in a free video from The Motley > Fool. Enter your email address below to view this stunning video." > > * Sounds like BS marketing to me. yes. Tablets plus clouds? |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
Le 16/02/12 15:33, Nick Keighley a écrit :
> On Feb 16, 7:04 am, Juha Nieminen<nos...@thanks.invalid> wrote: >> seasoned_geek<rol...@logikalsolutions.com> wrote: >>> http://beta.fool.com/seasonedgeek/20...developers-cho... >> >> "The days of paying for costly software upgrades are numbered. The PC >> will soon be obsolete. And BusinessWeek reports 70% of Americans are >> already using the technology that will replace it. Merrill Lynch calls >> it "a $160 billion tsunami." Computing giants including IBM, Yahoo!, >> and Amazon are racing to be the first to cash in on this PC-killing >> revolution. Yet, a small group of little-known companies have a huge >> head start. Get the full details on these companies, and the >> technology that is destroying the PC, in a free video from The Motley >> Fool. Enter your email address below to view this stunning video." >> >> Sounds like BS marketing to me. > > yes. Tablets plus clouds? That is the dream of all corporations. Imagine: 1) No way to store locally your data. You are tied for all your data processing needs to your "cloud". Email, address book, phone numbers, friends addresses, all your music, books, photographs, is no longer under your own control but it is alienated from you in some computer where you do not control anything. 2) No privacy any more, all your data is public and traded by corporations that sell it without giving you a penny (of course). 3) Your tablet is no longer able to receive your commands directly. All your software is stored at the cloud and stores all the new data you enter in the cloud. The world of IBM Mainframes of the seventies AGAIN, but this time MUCH more dangerous since we have MUCH more digital data and we are much more dependent of that data. I am not in facebook, nor in twitter, nor do I send anything to any cloudy servers somewhere. Yes I am stupid, retrograde, and (gasp) I insist on denying anyone that I do not know access to my personal data. The end of the PC: the PERSONAL computer. Nothing is personal any more in the new, shiny tablet. |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
Am 15.02.12 22:57, schrieb seasoned_geek: > http://beta.fool.com/seasonedgeek/20...s-choice/1475/ > The writer of this article is strongly biased. Worse, at some points in the article he doesn't seem to know what he is talking abaout, despite the fact that he claims to be "a developer with over twenty years in IT and a technical author with two books written on the Qt cross platform application development framework". For example, he talks about portability issues of frameworks like Java and .NET, and then claims, that these issues are non-existent for QT using the words: 'I have no idea what those marvelous gentlemen imbibed at Trolltech to come up with “Signals and Slots,” but that design strategy has officially delivered Utopia.' While it's certainly true that the signal/slot mechanism is nice to handle events in C++, it has *absolutely nothing* to do with the portability issues. These issues are rather an indication on how hard the developpers tried to eliminate the platform differences. Also, the number of issues increases with the size of the toolkit. Java and .NET are both really, really big frameworks. Later on, he writes: "Qt doesn’t care what OS or device. App developers no longer care what OS or device." even with respect to mobile platforms. Who ever has tried to use a standard website on a small mobile phone immediately agrees that this is nonsense. Mobile apps must be tailored to the display size and touch screen input methods and are very different to use than desktop apps. Then, "You get the snap and speed of a pure executable (which cannot be matched by an interpreter no matter what Java developers claim)." Sure, native compilation is good for performance, but interpreters and virtual machines have become a lot better in the last ten years. Very often, when designing GUIs, you don't need very high speed. At work I'm using C++ combined with a script language that is 10x slower at performing computations (Tcl). But the dynamic nature and the ease of developping outperforms this difference so much that it simply doesn't matter. The heavy-lifting parts are compiled C++, while the heavy dynamic parts (GUI) is Tcl, and nobody ever noticed that the application is slow - in contrary our customers are impressed by the amazing speed. All in all it's a very biased article that has not much to tell.... Christian |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
On Feb 16, 1:04*am, Juha Nieminen <nos...@thanks.invalid> wrote:
> seasoned_geek <rol...@logikalsolutions.com> wrote: > >http://beta.fool.com/seasonedgeek/20...developers-cho... > > "The days of paying for costly software upgrades are numbered. The PC > will soon be obsolete. And BusinessWeek reports 70% of Americans are > already using the technology that will replace it. Merrill Lynch calls > it "a $160 billion tsunami." Computing giants including IBM, Yahoo!, > and Amazon are racing to be the first to cash in on this PC-killing > revolution. Yet, a small group of little-known companies have a huge > head start. Get the full details on these companies, and the > technology that is destroying the PC, in a free video from The Motley > Fool. Enter your email address below to view this stunning video." > > * Sounds like BS marketing to me. that is not part of the article, but a poorly identified advertisement Motley stuffs into the bottom of all posts |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
jacob navia wrote:
> That is the dream of all corporations. Imagine: > > 1) No way to store locally your data. You are tied for all your data > processing needs to your "cloud". Email, address book, phone numbers, > friends addresses, all your music, books, photographs, is no longer > under your own control but it is alienated from you in some computer > where you do not control anything. > > 2) No privacy any more, all your data is public and traded by > corporations that sell it without giving you a penny (of course). > > 3) Your tablet is no longer able to receive your commands directly. All > your software is stored at the cloud and stores all the new data you > enter in the cloud. > > The world of IBM Mainframes of the seventies AGAIN, but this time MUCH > more dangerous since we have MUCH more digital data and we are much more > dependent of that data. > > I am not in facebook, nor in twitter, nor do I send anything to any > cloudy servers somewhere. Yes I am stupid, retrograde, and (gasp) I > insist on denying anyone that I do not know access to my personal data. > > The end of the PC: the PERSONAL computer. Nothing is personal any more > in the new, shiny tablet. And let's not forget the convenient monthly payments these corporations expect the general public to pay for the privilege of doing less than what we have been doing easily for years, if not decades. Rui Maciel |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
On Feb 16, 8:33*am, Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com>
wrote: > On Feb 16, 7:04*am, Juha Nieminen <nos...@thanks.invalid> wrote: > > > seasoned_geek <rol...@logikalsolutions.com> wrote: > > >http://beta.fool.com/seasonedgeek/20...developers-cho.... > > > "The days of paying for costly software upgrades are numbered. The PC > > will soon be obsolete. And BusinessWeek reports 70% of Americans are > > already using the technology that will replace it. Merrill Lynch calls > > it "a $160 billion tsunami." Computing giants including IBM, Yahoo!, > > and Amazon are racing to be the first to cash in on this PC-killing > > revolution. Yet, a small group of little-known companies have a huge > > head start. Get the full details on these companies, and the > > technology that is destroying the PC, in a free video from The Motley > > Fool. Enter your email address below to view this stunning video." > > > * Sounds like BS marketing to me. > > yes. Tablets plus clouds? that is not me. It is an advertisement which isn't clearly identified stuffed into the article by the Web site. View a few more articles and you will see it. I see that same ad on Yahoo sites as well. |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
On Feb 16, 9:08*am, jacob navia <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote:
> > 1) No way to store locally your data. You are tied for all your data > processing needs to your "cloud". Email, address book, phone numbers, > friends addresses, all your music, books, photographs, is no longer > under your own control but it is alienated from you in some computer > where you do not control anything. > > 2) No privacy any more, all your data is public and traded by > corporations that sell it without giving you a penny (of course). > > 3) Your tablet is no longer able to receive your commands directly. All > your software is stored at the cloud and stores all the new data you > enter in the cloud. > > The world of IBM Mainframes of the seventies AGAIN, but this time MUCH > more dangerous since we have MUCH more digital data and we are much more > dependent of that data. > again, that is an ad stuffed into the article by the site. I actually echoed many of your sentiments in my award winning SOA book. http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com/soa_book.html I analyzed it in detail and took it a lot farther. In fact, after I got done, I had to write a novel, "Infinite Exposure" http://www.infiniteexposure.net/ |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
seasoned_geek <roland@logikalsolutions.com> wrote:
> that is not part of the article, but a poorly identified advertisement > Motley stuffs into the bottom of all posts Advertisements not clearly identified as such are illegal in many countries. On the other hand, anarchy is the rule in the internet... |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
On Feb 16, 2:42*pm, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And let's not forget the convenient monthly payments these corporations > expect the general public to pay for the privilege of doing less than what > we have been doing easily for years, if not decades. > In a lot of cases there's more functionality in the on line version. I'm sympathetic to your point, but what other business models are viable in as corrupt a world as this? Call us crazy, but businessmen expect to be nicely rewarded for our investments. The C++ Middleware Writer and many other services are free. So at least in some cases there's no complaining about the cost. Brian Ebenezer Enterprises http://webEbenezer.net |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
Ebenezer wrote:
> In a lot of cases there's more functionality in the on line > version. I'm sympathetic to your point, but what other > business models are viable in as corrupt a world as this? What do you mean by that? Rui Maciel |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
On Feb 16, 8:42*pm, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> jacob navia wrote: > > That is the dream of all corporations. Imagine: > > > 1) No way to store locally your data. You are tied for all your data > > processing needs to your "cloud". Email, address book, phone numbers, > > friends addresses, all your music, books, photographs, is no longer > > under your own control but it is alienated from you in some computer > > where you do not control anything. > > > 2) No privacy any more, all your data is public and traded by > > corporations that sell it without giving you a penny (of course). > > > 3) Your tablet is no longer able to receive your commands directly. All > > your software is stored at the cloud and stores all the new data you > > enter in the cloud. > > > The world of IBM Mainframes of the seventies AGAIN, but this time MUCH > > more dangerous since we have MUCH more digital data and we are much more > > dependent of that data. > > > I am not in facebook, nor in twitter, nor do I send anything to any > > cloudy servers somewhere. Yes I am stupid, retrograde, and (gasp) I > > insist on denying anyone that I do not know access to my personal data. > > > The end of the PC: the PERSONAL computer. Nothing is personal any more > > in the new, shiny tablet. > > And let's not forget the convenient monthly payments these corporations > expect the general public to pay for the privilege of doing less than what > we have been doing easily for years, if not decades. plus in actuality it isn't "always there" and when it is fast wireless access isn't as ubiquitous as this technology needs |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
On Feb 16, 8:42*pm, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> jacob navia wrote: > > That is the dream of all corporations. Imagine: > > > 1) No way to store locally your data. You are tied for all your data > > processing needs to your "cloud". Email, address book, phone numbers, > > friends addresses, all your music, books, photographs, is no longer > > under your own control but it is alienated from you in some computer > > where you do not control anything. > > > 2) No privacy any more, all your data is public and traded by > > corporations that sell it without giving you a penny (of course). > > > 3) Your tablet is no longer able to receive your commands directly. All > > your software is stored at the cloud and stores all the new data you > > enter in the cloud. > > > The world of IBM Mainframes of the seventies AGAIN, but this time MUCH > > more dangerous since we have MUCH more digital data and we are much more > > dependent of that data. > > > I am not in facebook, nor in twitter, nor do I send anything to any > > cloudy servers somewhere. Yes I am stupid, retrograde, and (gasp) I > > insist on denying anyone that I do not know access to my personal data. > > > The end of the PC: the PERSONAL computer. Nothing is personal any more > > in the new, shiny tablet. > > And let's not forget the convenient monthly payments these corporations > expect the general public to pay for the privilege of doing less than what > we have been doing easily for years, if not decades. > and lets not forget that network connections aren't always there and when they are they can be woefully slow |
Re: C++ and Qt now making business news
On Feb 17, 4:47*am, Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nos...@hotmail.com>
wrote: > On Feb 16, 8:42*pm, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > And let's not forget the convenient monthly payments these corporations > > expect the general public to pay for the privilege of doing less than what > > we have been doing easily for years, if not decades. > > and lets not forget that network connections aren't always there Don't forget that free is a nice price. With some of these applications you can get a private copy, but the cost of owning a copy is increasing. |
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