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On Feb 21, 4:55*am, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Quint Rankid wrote:
>
> <snip/>
>
> >> In Europe we discuss to counteract this way of
>
> > In Europe they've been opposed to free markets ever since, well, ever.
> > Maybe a free market is inconsistent with philosophies that assert that
> > some people are better than others. Maybe it's because "many" believe
> > that things have an intrinsic value that can be set by government
> > fiat. Maybe there's some other reason. It seems to have some awful
> > consequences no matter which side you're on. Just ask Anastasia.
>
> You are either making stuff as you go along or simply trolling.

A fascinating accusation. I wasn't going to respond to anything in
this thread again, but you got me.

Please tell me exactly what "stuff" you think I'm making up as I go
along. Please be specific.

Please tell me how the stuff you suggest I'm making up differs from
someone saying that "many people" think that making a profit in a free
market is unethical. Even if "many people" feel that way, aren't the
ethical beliefs they have made up? Or are those ethics some sort of
fact with a basis in physical reality? Please tell me why you didn't
accuse the poster who suggested an ethical problem of making stuff up
and being a troll too. TIA

Quint Rankid wrote:

> On Feb 21, 4:55 am, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Quint Rankid wrote:
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>> >> In Europe we discuss to counteract this way of
>>
>> > In Europe they've been opposed to free markets ever since, well, ever.
>> > Maybe a free market is inconsistent with philosophies that assert that
>> > some people are better than others. Maybe it's because "many" believe
>> > that things have an intrinsic value that can be set by government
>> > fiat. Maybe there's some other reason. It seems to have some awful
>> > consequences no matter which side you're on. Just ask Anastasia.
>>
>> You are either making stuff as you go along or simply trolling.
>
> A fascinating accusation. I wasn't going to respond to anything in
> this thread again, but you got me.
>
> Please tell me exactly what "stuff" you think I'm making up as I go
> along. Please be specific.
>
> Please tell me how the stuff you suggest I'm making up differs from
> someone saying that "many people" think that making a profit in a free
> market is unethical.

The concept of being right by proxy doesn't exist, particularly when your
claim is patently absurd.


Rui Maciel

Le 26/02/12 05:46, Quint Rankid a écrit :
> On Feb 21, 4:55 am, Rui Maciel<rui.mac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Quint Rankid wrote:
>>
>> <snip/>
>>
>>>> In Europe we discuss to counteract this way of
>>
>>> In Europe they've been opposed to free markets ever since, well, ever.
>>> Maybe a free market is inconsistent with philosophies that assert that
>>> some people are better than others. Maybe it's because "many" believe
>>> that things have an intrinsic value that can be set by government
>>> fiat. Maybe there's some other reason. It seems to have some awful
>>> consequences no matter which side you're on. Just ask Anastasia.
>>
>> You are either making stuff as you go along or simply trolling.
>
> A fascinating accusation. I wasn't going to respond to anything in
> this thread again, but you got me.
>
> Please tell me exactly what "stuff" you think I'm making up as I go
> along. Please be specific.
>
> Please tell me how the stuff you suggest I'm making up differs from
> someone saying that "many people" think that making a profit in a free
> market is unethical.

You and your masters manipulate and control the "free" market as you
have well described in your previous messages. Those markets aren't
"free" but rigged for your masters, that give you some crumbs to you.

You feel happy, well fed, and ignore the misery all around you because
you have swallowed all that ideology from your masters into your being
until nothing is left but a mere slave, or... better, a "free agent".


> Even if "many people" feel that way, aren't the
> ethical beliefs they have made up?

Hey wait a minute pal... to speak about "ethics" you have to have one.
ALL your "ethics" can be described in one word:

MONEY

For instance you say:
> I suspect that even before they're done with the PIGS
> the Germans will run out of a) money b) patience.

Who are the "PIGS"?

Well, financial slaves call Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain
PIGS in a nice acronym to make us forget WHO ARE THE REAL PIGS!

> Or are those ethics some sort of
> fact with a basis in physical reality?

The big banks/financial institutions (your masters) have discovered
how to rig a previously open market into a rigged one with the help
of people like you.

If they win they keep their money, if they loose we have to pay their
debts and clean up after them so that they can start again.

And I am not talking about "many people think" here. I am signing
with MY name, this is what I think and I believe.


Jacob Navia
Paris, France

jacob navia wrote:

> > I suspect that even before they're done with the PIGS
> > the Germans will run out of a) money b) patience.
>
> Who are the "PIGS"?
>
> Well, financial slaves call Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain
> PIGS in a nice acronym to make us forget WHO ARE THE REAL PIGS!

As a side note, there is an interesting pattern regarding the use of the
infamous P.I.G.S. acronym.

When the accusations of economic woes were only tacked on Portugal, Ireland,
Greece and Spain, it was used extensively, along with any detrimental and
insulting pun that anyone could muster and a string of blanket accusations
of incompetence attributed to entire countries, eventhough there is nothing
in common between those countries' problems.

When Italy also found its public finances in shambles, the media was quick
to expand the acronym to include them, and so the same string of insulting
accusations were extended to also include them, and the P.I.I.G.S. was born.

Yet, mysteriously, when the economy of Great Britain made the news for its
equally disastrous state, suddenly the use of the P.I.G.S. acronym (or
P.I.I.G.G.S.) simply ceased. No one refers to the P.I.G.S. anymore.
Instead we are dealing with a world financial crisis, a global recession, an
unfortunate twist of fate which no one could ever foresee, and simply a
natural, cyclical economic event which could happen to any state, no matter
how ingenious, competent and exemplary their leaders are.


Rui Maciel

On 02/27/12 09:30 AM, Rui Maciel wrote:
>
> Yet, mysteriously, when the economy of Great Britain made the news for its
> equally disastrous state, suddenly the use of the P.I.G.S. acronym (or
> P.I.I.G.G.S.) simply ceased. No one refers to the P.I.G.S. anymore.
> Instead we are dealing with a world financial crisis, a global recession, an
> unfortunate twist of fate which no one could ever foresee, and simply a
> natural, cyclical economic event which could happen to any state, no matter
> how ingenious, competent and exemplary their leaders are.

Maybe the acronym generator was written in Java and the VM exhausted all
available memory? Now if it had been written in C++...

--
Ian Collins

On Feb 26, 2:36*pm, Ian Collins <ian-n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 02/27/12 09:30 AM, Rui Maciel wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yet, mysteriously, when the economy of Great Britain made the news for its
> > equally disastrous state, suddenly the use of the P.I.G.S. acronym (or
> > P.I.I.G.G.S.) simply ceased. *No one refers to the P.I.G.S. anymore.
> > Instead we are dealing with a world financial crisis, a global recession, an
> > unfortunate twist of fate which no one could ever foresee, and simply a
> > natural, cyclical economic event which could happen to any state, no matter
> > how ingenious, competent and exemplary their leaders are.
>
> Maybe the acronym generator was written in Java and the VM exhausted all
> available memory? *Now if it had been written in C++...
>

I encourage people to get out of debt and stay out of debt...
rent or buy a place you can afford to pay cash for. Thanks to
George W. and Obama the US is in as big a mess as the PIGS.
Will Germany survive? By trying to help some others it may
be pulled under also.

Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises
http://webEbenezer.net

On Feb 26, 1:56*pm, jacob navia <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote:
> Le 26/02/12 05:46, Quint Rankid a écrit :
>

> You and your masters manipulate and control the "free" market as you
> have well described in your previous messages. Those markets aren't
> "free" but rigged for your masters, that give you some crumbs to you.
>
> You feel happy, well fed, and ignore the misery all around you because
> you have swallowed all that ideology from your masters into your being
> until nothing is left but a mere slave, or... better, a "free agent".
>
> > Even if "many people" feel that way, aren't the
> > ethical beliefs they have made up?
>
> Hey wait a minute pal... to speak about "ethics" you have to have one.
> ALL your "ethics" can be described in one word:
>
> MONEY
>
> For instance you say:
> *> I suspect that even before they're done with the PIGS
> *> the Germans will run out of a) money b) patience.
>
> Who are the "PIGS"?
>
> Well, financial slaves call Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain
> PIGS in a nice acronym to make us forget WHO ARE THE REAL PIGS!
>
> > Or are those ethics some sort of
> > fact with a basis in physical reality?
>
> The big banks/financial institutions (your masters) have discovered
> how to rig a previously open market into a rigged one with the help
> of people like you.
>
> If they win they keep their money, if they loose we have to pay their
> debts and clean up after them so that they can start again.
>
> And I am not talking about "many people think" here. I am signing
> with MY name, this is what I think and I believe.
>
> Jacob Navia
> Paris, France

Even though I disagree with much of what you've written, I applaud you
for your honesty. Sigh. Yes, it's true, as time has gone by my
country has started to abandon its free market principles and has
substituted something that is starting to look a lot like crony
capitalism.

History suggests this sort of thing tends not to turn out well.

In other news, Germany is starting to realize that it's important to
select lenders that will repay. Perhaps they're learning from the
mistakes, that monument of corruption, the US mortgage industry, made.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...816903,00.html

No. Probably not.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...817881,00.html
I wonder if this repeat of history is the tragedy or the farce?

Ah well, c'est la guerre.

On Feb 20, 5:49*pm, Rui Maciel <rui.mac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Have you ever tried to get software based on Qt to run on those platforms?
> How did that worked out? *Oh, I see.
>

Unlike you, yes I have. There are active Qt ports for many platforms
including OpenVMS. Unlike Java, I really can compile a Qt application
which runs on VMS and another platform.

On Feb 20, 7:26*pm, Quint Rankid <qbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2:17*pm, Christian Gollwitzer <aurio...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> > As a side note,
>
> Oh. Side notes. *Goody. I want to write a side note too.
>

Goody! I want to write a side note too. When your application IS the
STOCK EXCHANGE it has to process all of the volume it receives in a
near instantaneous manner.

Of course, when it doesn't, then it is the London Stock Exchange and
it is running a trading floor system developed by Arthur
Andersen...errr...Accenture using their high class off-shore labor,
Microsoft Windows, and Visual Basic.

http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/...on-successful/

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-sourc...ell-linux/8285