Do you want to develop PHP for the Web and make money

Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
supported software
in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.

I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
yeah why not.
It is difficult to argue anyway exept that it is fickle, gross and not
conforming to
standards. It sure as hell does not have the professional looking sheen that
corporate software has.

Does it work. Yeah, it does - if you will agree with me on the function
given in the
programs. It is not Java, it is HTML and HTML-forms in combination with
PHP documents
that gives the programs their functionality.

I have a website, where some of the modules are on display, and others
are optioned
for download. It is freeware so you can freely download and examine any
piece of
code. You might ask, what is so funky about something being freeware
when you want
to make money on it. Well, you can ask for a charge if given
corporation is willing
and able to pay, and even set a standard fee. That is not against the
law. However
each pay in turn - everybody should e able to aquire a webtool.

That is what they are called: Sterling WebTools(tm). And if you sell
any one of them
you are entitled to 10% of the revenue. The price is 100.000 Dkr
Standard per Unit.
What Standard and Unit means will be explained on some later occation, not now.

I do not want beady little misers. There is enough angry webhackers out
there already
we do not need to add to the calamity. Business is AD in notion and in
manner, and a
positive outlook and perspective on the world is basic.

I have not sold a thing yet, not here in my hand though, and not money
in the account
yet. But the future is blue. You might say that I have pretty little to
show for if
I have not yet sold a single copy. Point is, if I had I would not be
needing you.

Also you should look at the programs and make up your own opinion.

Ok, so sales are 10%, but I want to hack what then...

Here is the deal:

Sales 10%
Merchantiles 5%
Devastation 2%
Insulence 1%
Data 0.5%
It 0.25%

Programming 40%
Sortie 50%
Danska 60%
Norm 70%
Djengis Khan 80%
Seller 90%


How this works out may not be immediately apparant, but they are exact
terms, so it
can be settled in a court. There is a way.

Sterling WebTools(tm) can be found at the following website: www.stweto.biz

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On 4/20/2012 4:32 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:

<Snip spam>

I don't deal with spammers, or anyone who talks about court action right
off the bat.

And just because they are "exact terms" doesn't mean they are legal!

Take your snake oil somewhere else!
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On 2012-04-20 11:22:14 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:

> On 4/20/2012 4:32 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>
> <Snip spam>
>
> I don't deal with spammers, or anyone who talks about court action
> right off the bat.
>
> And just because they are "exact terms" doesn't mean they are legal!
>
> Take your snake oil somewhere else!

I do not intend to be a Snake, I do not think you will come very far in
business
with inequal intensions. What has to be the deal, is something that is to an
advantage of all of us.

What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of law, and
that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage to all
the parties
included.

There is no fake intended.

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On 4/21/2012 9:11 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-20 11:22:14 +0000, Jerry Stuckle said:
>
>> On 4/20/2012 4:32 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>
>> <Snip spam>
>>
>> I don't deal with spammers, or anyone who talks about court action
>> right off the bat.
>>
>> And just because they are "exact terms" doesn't mean they are legal!
>>
>> Take your snake oil somewhere else!
>
> I do not intend to be a Snake, I do not think you will come very far in
> business
> with inequal intensions. What has to be the deal, is something that is
> to an
> advantage of all of us.
>
> What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of
> law, and
> that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage to all
> the parties
> included.
>
> There is no fake intended.
>

Take your snake oil somewhere else. Anything can be settled in a court
of law. The fact you even have to say that means you have snake oil.

And it's also SPAM, BTW.

BTW, I've had a very successful consulting business for 20+ years.

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:11:22 +0200, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:

> What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of
> law, and that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage
> to all the parties included.

Sorry, but I see Jerry's point on this one.

You don't open a sales pitch by saying "so it can be settled in a court".

Such an opening implies one of the following:

a) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to
court.
b) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect me to take you to
court.
c) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect to take me to
court.
d) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect me to take you
to court.

Now given that I consider myself to be honest and have at the outset (1)
no intention of being dishonest with you and (2) no expectation of taking
you to court, then the only option that remains viable is (a) - you
intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to court - and thus
I now assume that your terms are a bunch of legalese designed solely to
screw over anyone who enters into any sort of deal with you. Having
reached that conclusion, my wish to enter into any sort of business
arrangement with you equates pretty much with my desire to jump naked and
bleeding into a tank full of hungry piranhas.

I'm not saying this is the case, I'm saying it's the impression that your
sales pitch has given me.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

On 2012-04-21 14:42:52 +0000, Denis McMahon said:

> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:11:22 +0200, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of
>> law, and that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage
>> to all the parties included.
>
> Sorry, but I see Jerry's point on this one.
>
> You don't open a sales pitch by saying "so it can be settled in a court".
>
> Such an opening implies one of the following:
>
> a) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to
> court.
> b) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect me to take you to
> court.
> c) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect to take me to
> court.
> d) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect me to take you
> to court.
>
> Now given that I consider myself to be honest and have at the outset (1)
> no intention of being dishonest with you and (2) no expectation of taking
> you to court, then the only option that remains viable is (a) - you
> intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to court - and thus
> I now assume that your terms are a bunch of legalese designed solely to
> screw over anyone who enters into any sort of deal with you. Having
> reached that conclusion, my wish to enter into any sort of business
> arrangement with you equates pretty much with my desire to jump naked and
> bleeding into a tank full of hungry piranhas.
>
> I'm not saying this is the case, I'm saying it's the impression that your
> sales pitch has given me.
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon

Does anyone understand what I am talking about.
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Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:

> […]

You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.

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On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:

> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>
>> […]
>
> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.

Libel.
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Hedevangen 16, Rebild
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Denmark

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www.stconinc.com

On 2012-04-21 14:42:52 +0000, Denis McMahon said:

> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:11:22 +0200, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> What the court action means, is that it can be *settled* in a court of
>> law, and that is then considered to be a term that is to be to advantage
>> to all the parties included.
>
> Sorry, but I see Jerry's point on this one.
>
> You don't open a sales pitch by saying "so it can be settled in a court".
>
> Such an opening implies one of the following:
>
> a) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to
> court.
> b) That you intend to be dishonest with me, and expect me to take you to
> court.
> c) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect to take me to
> court.
> d) That you expect me to be dishonest with you, and expect me to take you
> to court.
>
> Now given that I consider myself to be honest and have at the outset (1)
> no intention of being dishonest with you and (2) no expectation of taking
> you to court, then the only option that remains viable is (a) - you
> intend to be dishonest with me, and expect to take me to court - and thus
> I now assume that your terms are a bunch of legalese designed solely to
> screw over anyone who enters into any sort of deal with you. Having
> reached that conclusion, my wish to enter into any sort of business
> arrangement with you equates pretty much with my desire to jump naked and
> bleeding into a tank full of hungry piranhas.
>
> I'm not saying this is the case, I'm saying it's the impression that your
> sales pitch has given me.
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon

Because I say that something can be settled in a court of law, I am a bad guy?
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Hedevangen 16, Rebild
9520 Skorping
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info@stconinc.com
www.stconinc.com

Torsten Jørgensen wrote:

> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>> […]
>>
>> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>
> Libel.

Sue me.


PointedEars
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On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:

> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>> […]
>>>
>>> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>
>> Libel.
>
> Sue me.

Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
that the tone
here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
time, or am
I just being hypersensitive.
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On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>
>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>>> […]
>>>>
>>>> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>
>>> Libel.
>>
>> Sue me.
>
> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
> that the tone
> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
> time, or am
> I just being hypersensitive.

You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post
threatening possible court action, you get what you ask for.

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On 20-04-2012 10:32, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
> Well, making money may be a hard talk. It depends on wheather the
> supported software
> in your oppinion lives up to the standards given in industry.
>
> I am making business software using web technology with PHP. Why web,
> yeah why not.

You should try to make better software,
before trying to sell it...

>
> How this works out may not be immediately apparant, but they are exact
> terms, so it
> can be settled in a court. There is a way.

http://www.stweto.biz/demo/account/library/account.dat

If my business-data could be aquired that easily....
I would start a business right now...
(or i would sue my software vendor)

>
> Sterling WebTools(tm) can be found at the following website: www.stweto.biz
>

Am 22.04.2012 15:25, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
> On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>
>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>>>> […]
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>>
>>>> Libel.
>>>
>>> Sue me.
>>
>> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
>> that the tone
>> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
>> time, or am
>> I just being hypersensitive.
>
> You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post threatening possible
> court action, you get what you ask for.
>

For me, people who start insulting others first, without reason, qualify for "asshole".

/Str.

On 4/23/2012 5:04 AM, M. Strobel wrote:
> Am 22.04.2012 15:25, schrieb Jerry Stuckle:
>> On 4/22/2012 4:53 AM, Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-22 08:24:03 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>
>>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2012-04-21 17:22:49 +0000, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said:
>>>>>> Torsten Jørgensen wrote on 2012-04-20:
>>>>>>> […]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a little late for an April Fool's joke.
>>>>>
>>>>> Libel.
>>>>
>>>> Sue me.
>>>
>>> Cool, I might blow you instead if you want me to. But do you not agree
>>> that the tone
>>> here on USENET can get a bit shall we call it 'vitriolic', from time to
>>> time, or am
>>> I just being hypersensitive.
>>
>> You're just being an arsehole. When you start out with a post threatening possible
>> court action, you get what you ask for.
>>
>
> For me, people who start insulting others first, without reason, qualify for "asshole".
>
> /Str.
>

Yes, I understand how a troll would feel that way.


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