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Old 01-16-2011, 01:16 PM
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In connection with a C to Pascal project, I was directed to:
http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.txt
http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.pac

I've got access to Oberon:
ETHZ V3,
V4
So I can't decode [to plain text]
http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.txt
which looks like:
StdCoder.Decode ..,1 ..Q3....5eA59QT7FTvMfv9XORHvMLP9b8R1fQdf9T9N5nV8nl .Yem

How should I get the PlainText source code ?

== Chris Glur.

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Old 01-16-2011, 10:00 PM
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<no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:iguujq$f26$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> In connection with a C to Pascal project, I was directed to:
> http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.txt
> http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.pac
>
> I've got access to Oberon:
> ETHZ V3,
> V4
> So I can't decode [to plain text]
> http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.txt
> which looks like:
> StdCoder.Decode ..,1
> ..Q3....5eA59QT7FTvMfv9XORHvMLP9b8R1fQdf9T9N5nV8nl .Yem
>
> How should I get the PlainText source code ?
>


To get the PlainText source code (and documentation) you need Oberon
microsystem's BlackBox system. If you have a BlackBox system you won't need
the PlainText.

The c2cp application is not an Oberon / Oberon-2 application designed to run
on an ETH Oberon system. It is a Component Pascal application designed to
run on framework:

http://www.oberon.ch/blackbox.html

Either you need to port it to ETHZ V3 / V4 or you need to run it under
BlackBox. If you intend to port it you will first have to understand how it
interfaces to the BlackBox environment so you can redesign it to interface
with the ETH Oberon environment. For either approach you will need access to
a Windows, MacOS (MC68000) or Linux / Cygwin system so that you can install
and run BlackBox and learn how it all works before you will be able to make
any use of c2cp.

Regards,
Chris Burrows

CFB Software
Astrobe v3.2: ARM Oberon-07 Development System
http://www.astrobe.com



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Old 01-23-2011, 04:04 PM
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In article <4d33788c$0$29894$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.c om>, "Chris Burrows" <cfbsoftware@hotmail.com> wrote:

> <no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iguujq$f26$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> > In connection with a C to Pascal project, I was directed to:
> > http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.txt
> > http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.pac
> >
> > I've got access to Oberon:
> > ETHZ V3,
> > V4
> > So I can't decode [to plain text]
> > http://www.zinnamturm.eu/pac/C2cp.txt
> > which looks like:
> > StdCoder.Decode ..,1
> > ..Q3....5eA59QT7FTvMfv9XORHvMLP9b8R1fQdf9T9N5nV8nl .Yem
> >
> > How should I get the PlainText source code ?
> >

>
> To get the PlainText source code (and documentation) you need Oberon
> microsystem's BlackBox system. If you have a BlackBox system you won't
> need the PlainText.
>

I want the knowledge that is embedded in the algorithms, which is
conventionally expressed in PlainText.

> The c2cp application is not an Oberon / Oberon-2 application designed
> to run on an ETH Oberon system. It is a Component Pascal application
> designed to run on framework:
>
> http://www.oberon.ch/blackbox.html
>
> Either you need to port it to ETHZ V3 / V4 or you need to run it under
> BlackBox. If you intend to port it you will first have to understand how it
> interfaces to the BlackBox environment so you can redesign it to interface
> with the ETH Oberon environment. For either approach you will need
> access to a Windows, MacOS (MC68000) or Linux / Cygwin system so
> that you can install and run BlackBox and learn how it all works before
> you will be able to make any use of c2cp.
>

c2cp can NOT translate C to any other computer-language,
like a procedure to <show the cube root of 17, to 9 decimal
places>; ie. determanistic. It can only do a fuzzy-bable-fish-like
job.

Think 'tool'. Like pencil & paper helps you move forward
with you own effort, but is not a puchased ready-made
final-solution.

Don't 'Component Pascal' users communicate with the
outside world in plain-text ?

A purchased shrink-wrapped app which translates some of
the many C-implemented algorithms to Wirthian-code,
would need to be a biological, breathing one.

Thanks,

== Chris Glur.

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