extracting data from on-line db display into my db

Does anyone know where I can find a programmer that can build me a
program that can extract data from a "detailed" web page and put it
into
my database?
The page with the data appears after a primary search is done on the
site which produces a list of items. From that list of items each
needs
to be clicked before the "detailed" page appears. This is the page
that
contains the data that needs to be captured.

THS wrote on 04 jan 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:

> Does anyone know where I can find a programmer that can build me a
> program that can extract data from a "detailed" web page and put it
> into my database?

Yes, I think most of us know someone that can.

> The page with the data appears after a primary search is done on the
> site which produces a list of items. From that list of items each
> needs
> to be clicked before the "detailed" page appears. This is the page
> that contains the data that needs to be captured.

Why not build it yourself after reading up on javscript,
and by reading the archive of this NG?


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THS wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can find a programmer that can build me a
> program that can extract data from a "detailed" web page and put it
> into my database?

Yes, but do you have the original author's permission to do so?


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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote on 04 jan 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:

> THS wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know where I can find a programmer that can build me a
>> program that can extract data from a "detailed" web page and put it
>> into my database?
>
> Yes, but do you have the original author's permission to do so?

Why and where would you need a permission to put something published on the
web in your own database?

And even if so, quod non, he only asks if we KNOW if there IS someone that
KNOWS where he could FIND a programmer that CAN do something, not that we
divulge the facts of such knowledge.

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Evertjan. wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote on 04 jan 2011 in
> comp.lang.javascript:
[...]
>> Yes, but do you have the original author's permission to do so?
>
> Why and where would you need a permission to put something published
> on the web in your own database?

Due to copyright legislation, on Earth, possibly elsewhere as well. Surely
this depends on many things, but the implied general answer in your
rhetorical question is false.

> And even if so, quod non, he only asks if we KNOW if there IS someone
> that KNOWS where he could FIND a programmer that CAN do something,
> not that we divulge the facts of such knowledge.

Surely anyone has the right to make questions relevant to the lawfulness of
some action before giving (or paid) direct or indirect advice on performing
the action. The questions may be left unanswered, of course. And any third
party can throw in an answer or a comment, even a misleading one, as you
did.

I'd suggest that you ignore apparent (and even semi-apparent) trolls. It's
surely better than making comments that may mislead innocent readers.

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Jukka K. Korpela wrote on 05 jan 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:

> Evertjan. wrote:
>
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote on 04 jan 2011 in
>> comp.lang.javascript:
> [...]
>>> Yes, but do you have the original author's permission to do so?
>>
>> Why and where would you need a permission to put something published
>> on the web in your own database?
>
> Due to copyright legislation, on Earth, possibly elsewhere as well.
> Surely this depends on many things, but the implied general answer in
> your rhetorical question is false.

Wrong, overhere as in many other countries and quite probably also in
Finland, there is no copyright restriction on data, copyright is about
creative utterances of an autor. Presuming that the data to be copied
are such is stretching even furter.

There could be other legal restrictions, but they have nothing to do with
copyright.

>> And even if so, quod non, he only asks if we KNOW if there IS someone
>> that KNOWS where he could FIND a programmer that CAN do something,
>> not that we divulge the facts of such knowledge.
>
> Surely anyone has the right to make questions relevant to the
> lawfulness of some action before giving (or paid) direct or indirect
> advice on performing the action.

An advice is not asked for. The Q is just if "we know where to find
someone", not even "where to find someone".

You could stipulate that that is the Q behind the Q, I do not.

> The questions may be left unanswered,
> of course. And any third party can throw in an answer or a comment,
> even a misleading one, as you did.

Perhaps my answer is missleading to you, because you missread the OQ?

> I'd suggest that you ignore apparent (and even semi-apparent) trolls.
> It's surely better than making comments that may mislead innocent
> readers.

What trolls should I ignore?

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I gave the advice to search this NG's archive, as I showed ho to do this
with Chrome extension programming recently. Others repied that Mozilla
firemonkey could do the same.


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Evertjan. wrote:

>> Due to copyright legislation, on Earth, possibly elsewhere as well.
>> Surely this depends on many things, but the implied general answer in
>> your rhetorical question is false.
>
> Wrong, overhere as in many other countries and quite probably also in
> Finland, there is no copyright restriction on data, copyright is about
> creative utterances of an autor. Presuming that the data to be copied
> are such is stretching even furter.

"Data" is just a collective word for _anything_ in digital format (and even
for something in analog format). For all that you can know, content
accessible on the Web, though data, should be assumed to contain works
protected by copyright. Besides, protection of databases is generally
included in copyright legislation, even though it's not copyright in the
narrow sense.

ObJavaScript: Within the EU, computer programs in machine-readable format
are treated as protected by copyright with no requirement on creativity, so
in principle even the most trivial JavaScript program, when stored in a
server for example, is under copyright. So extracting any data that might
contain JavaScript would require permission for that reason, if no other. Of
course, the most trivial programs are excepted in practice, but who would
want to copy them? "If it's worth copying, it's copyrighted."

"A computer program shall be protected if it is original in the sense that
it is the author's own intellectual creation. No other criteria shall be
applied to determine its eligibility for protection."
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...91L0250:EN:NOT

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