SP4 for VO

Hi
In former days there was an announcement, that there will be a service
pack every year. Is SP4 in progress for non suscription user?
What is the actual VO build number in the suscription?
Thanks Wolfgang

And a happy new year

Wolfgang,

The current build for VO is 2837. I don’t know anything about a service pack
for VO but I did want to get you the build number.

Regards,
Willie

Wolfgang,

You have been away too long. Brian has formally announced the end of the
product life cycle some time back. There will be no more public releases
and officially, 2837 is the last supported build.

However I believe you can pay $1000 per year to get maintenance fixes
outside of the public build program. Very few people have taken this up
because obviously, it isn't good value for money.

But this is a reality. VO can do everything usually needed and what it
cannot, we do in C# and bolt it on to our VO app with COM. The VO IDE
still has some annoying bugs and the editor still crashes and farts
about with source control. But we live with this and move on.

Cheers,

Geoff



"dengler" <denglerw@uni-freiburg.de> wrote in message
news:415sh691o87p53ah21ovr2f0v634tihj27@4ax.com:

> Hi
> In former days there was an announcement, that there will be a service
> pack every year. Is SP4 in progress for non suscription user?
> What is the actual VO build number in the suscription?
> Thanks Wolfgang
>
> And a happy new year

Thanks
It was not clear that Brian stopped VO 2.8. I looked into his
newsgroup grafx.public.announcements and didn't find anything.

In this case 2836 is the last offical build and 2837 the last
internal Build.

And VO 2.8 is definitively dead.

Thanks for the information


"Geoff Schaller" <geoffx@softwarexobjectives.com.au> schrieb:

>Wolfgang,
>
>You have been away too long. Brian has formally announced the end of the
>product life cycle some time back. There will be no more public releases
>and officially, 2837 is the last supported build.
>
>However I believe you can pay $1000 per year to get maintenance fixes
>outside of the public build program. Very few people have taken this up
>because obviously, it isn't good value for money.
>
>But this is a reality. VO can do everything usually needed and what it
>cannot, we do in C# and bolt it on to our VO app with COM. The VO IDE
>still has some annoying bugs and the editor still crashes and farts
>about with source control. But we live with this and move on.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Geoff
>
>
>
>"dengler" <denglerw@uni-freiburg.de> wrote in message
>news:415sh691o87p53ah21ovr2f0v634tihj27@4ax.com :
>
>> Hi
>> In former days there was an announcement, that there will be a service
>> pack every year. Is SP4 in progress for non suscription user?
>> What is the actual VO build number in the suscription?
>> Thanks Wolfgang
>>
>> And a happy new year

I suspect Brian's agreement with CA was that he HAD to continue and
therefore he cannot publicly declare VO dead or it triggers sunset
clauses in his agreement. But he has placed several posts to this forum
stating that there will be no more public releases or free patches,
despite the new bugs added into 2836.

He has got around this by suggesting that Vulcan is the evolution of VO
and that you can pay a rather large annual fee to still get some fixes.
But those I know who took up this service have not renewed because they
did not get value for their money.

Geoff



"dengler" <denglerw@uni-freiburg.de> wrote in message
news:4beuh61o7jg2kkp7eo1cs4r559qkd7f08e@4ax.com:

> Thanks
> It was not clear that Brian stopped VO 2.8. I looked into his
> newsgroup grafx.public.announcements and didn't find anything.
>
> In this case 2836 is the last offical build and 2837 the last
> internal Build.
>
> And VO 2.8 is definitively dead.
>
> Thanks for the information
>
>
> "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx@softwarexobjectives.com.au> schrieb:
>
>
> >Wolfgang,
> >
> >You have been away too long. Brian has formally announced the end of the
> >product life cycle some time back. There will be no more public releases
> >and officially, 2837 is the last supported build.
> >
> >However I believe you can pay $1000 per year to get maintenance fixes
> >outside of the public build program. Very few people have taken this up
> >because obviously, it isn't good value for money.
> >
> >But this is a reality. VO can do everything usually needed and what it
> >cannot, we do in C# and bolt it on to our VO app with COM. The VO IDE
> >still has some annoying bugs and the editor still crashes and farts
> >about with source control. But we live with this and move on.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Geoff
> >
> >
> >
> >"dengler" <denglerw@uni-freiburg.de> wrote in message
> >news:415sh691o87p53ah21ovr2f0v634tihj27@4ax.com :
> >
>
> >> Hi
> >> In former days there was an announcement, that there will be a service
> >> pack every year. Is SP4 in progress for non suscription user?
> >> What is the actual VO build number in the suscription?
> >> Thanks Wolfgang
> >>
> >> And a happy new year

Geoff

The last build is 2837 which is Sept 2009.. so more than a year ago.
Even for VOPS members there is no special VO builds... even for $1000.
VOPS is only for 'Vulcaneers' at this point in time.. but one can hope
maybe something may change.

Phil McGuinness
--

Geoff,

I feel like we have been betrayed, especially those of us who have supported
and advocated VO and Vulcan for several years.
For 2 years, I have been using VB.NET, C# and ASP.NET with no regrets. I
still use VO to maintain existing applications.

Brian! What is wrong with issuing patches to VO? Is VO such a beast and is
it really that hard of a job to issue patches? Where is the goodwill? We
supported you, so support us!

Just venting! I have been silent on this this but just sharing my
frustration like the others.

Jamal


"Geoff Schaller" wrote in message
news:4d1ea993$0$99369$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net...

Wolfgang,

You have been away too long. Brian has formally announced the end of the
product life cycle some time back. There will be no more public releases
and officially, 2837 is the last supported build.

However I believe you can pay $1000 per year to get maintenance fixes
outside of the public build program. Very few people have taken this up
because obviously, it isn't good value for money.

But this is a reality. VO can do everything usually needed and what it
cannot, we do in C# and bolt it on to our VO app with COM. The VO IDE
still has some annoying bugs and the editor still crashes and farts
about with source control. But we live with this and move on.

Cheers,

Geoff



"dengler" <denglerw@uni-freiburg.de> wrote in message
news:415sh691o87p53ah21ovr2f0v634tihj27@4ax.com:

> Hi
> In former days there was an announcement, that there will be a service
> pack every year. Is SP4 in progress for non suscription user?
> What is the actual VO build number in the suscription?
> Thanks Wolfgang
>
> And a happy new year

Jamal,

I'll take the other side: I think it's fine for VO to reach a graceful end
of life. I have standardized on 2831, and it really makes life simpler for
me and especially for my customers who maintain hundreds of PCs that they no
longer have to update the runtime DLLs every time I issue an upgrade. Sure
VO still has bugs, but each new patch seemed to bring new bugs, and at least
I know the old bugs and their workarounds. Even if that wasn't the case, I'd
still have to invest a lot of time in testing new builds. The new features
that VO got during the last years were mainly (I assume) for Vulcan
compatibility, so not all that interesting otherwise. I've moved on. You've
moved on. And Grafx has moved on. I think that's ok.

Ginny

"Jamal" wrote in message news:ifqkod$ghe$1@news.eternal-september.org...

Geoff,

I feel like we have been betrayed, especially those of us who have supported
and advocated VO and Vulcan for several years.
For 2 years, I have been using VB.NET, C# and ASP.NET with no regrets. I
still use VO to maintain existing applications.

Brian! What is wrong with issuing patches to VO? Is VO such a beast and is
it really that hard of a job to issue patches? Where is the goodwill? We
supported you, so support us!

Just venting! I have been silent on this this but just sharing my
frustration like the others.

Jamal


"Geoff Schaller" wrote in message
news:4d1ea993$0$99369$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net...

Wolfgang,

You have been away too long. Brian has formally announced the end of the
product life cycle some time back. There will be no more public releases
and officially, 2837 is the last supported build.

However I believe you can pay $1000 per year to get maintenance fixes
outside of the public build program. Very few people have taken this up
because obviously, it isn't good value for money.

But this is a reality. VO can do everything usually needed and what it
cannot, we do in C# and bolt it on to our VO app with COM. The VO IDE
still has some annoying bugs and the editor still crashes and farts
about with source control. But we live with this and move on.

Cheers,

Geoff



"dengler" <denglerw@uni-freiburg.de> wrote in message
news:415sh691o87p53ah21ovr2f0v634tihj27@4ax.com:

> Hi
> In former days there was an announcement, that there will be a service
> pack every year. Is SP4 in progress for non suscription user?
> What is the actual VO build number in the suscription?
> Thanks Wolfgang
>
> And a happy new year

richard.townsendrose wrote:

>
> As I have said many times, VO has now got to the stage that Clipper
> did - there is nothing more to be developed [apart from FINISHING off
> pdf for reportpro 2 - but we all get round that with barbara's
> solution or pdf995 or bullzip]
>
>
> richard

Richard or anyone else,

Can you tell me more about barbara's solution for pdf in reportpro ?

Dirk (Belgium)

--

Dirk,

I have sent you a private email with sample VO code and everything you
need to generate a PDF from a RP report. This code uses an open source
product and it is a wonderful solution that I have used for many years.

Barbara


> richard.townsendrose wrote:
>
>>
>> As I have said many times, VO has now got to the stage that Clipper
>> did - there is nothing more to be developed [apart from FINISHING off
>> pdf for reportpro 2 - but we all get round that with barbara's
>> solution or pdf995 or bullzip]
>>
>>
>> richard
>
> Richard or anyone else,
>
> Can you tell me more about barbara's solution for pdf in reportpro ?
>
> Dirk (Belgium)
>

Benito,

Happy to share. I have emailed to the account listed in your signature.


Barbara


On 1/6/2011 2:41 AM, Benito Fernández wrote:
> Hi Barbara
>
> Would you also be so kind to sending me a copy of the code?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Benito Fernández
> bfernandezm at prodigy dot net dot mx
>
> "Barbara" escribió en el mensaje de
> noticias:4d250c97$0$22168$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net. ..
>
> Dirk,
>
> I have sent you a private email with sample VO code and everything you
> need to generate a PDF from a RP report. This code uses an open source
> product and it is a wonderful solution that I have used for many years.
>
> Barbara
>
>
>> richard.townsendrose wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As I have said many times, VO has now got to the stage that Clipper
>>> did - there is nothing more to be developed [apart from FINISHING off
>>> pdf for reportpro 2 - but we all get round that with barbara's
>>> solution or pdf995 or bullzip]
>>>
>>>
>>> richard
>>
>> Richard or anyone else,
>>
>> Can you tell me more about barbara's solution for pdf in reportpro ?
>>
>> Dirk (Belgium)
>>
>

Hi Barbara

Would you also be so kind to sending me a copy of the code?

Thanks in advance.

Benito Fernández
bfernandezm at prodigy dot net dot mx

"Barbara" escribió en el mensaje de
noticias:4d250c97$0$22168$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net. ..

Dirk,

I have sent you a private email with sample VO code and everything you
need to generate a PDF from a RP report. This code uses an open source
product and it is a wonderful solution that I have used for many years.

Barbara


> richard.townsendrose wrote:
>
>>
>> As I have said many times, VO has now got to the stage that Clipper
>> did - there is nothing more to be developed [apart from FINISHING off
>> pdf for reportpro 2 - but we all get round that with barbara's
>> solution or pdf995 or bullzip]
>>
>>
>> richard
>
> Richard or anyone else,
>
> Can you tell me more about barbara's solution for pdf in reportpro ?
>
> Dirk (Belgium)
>

Barbara wrote:

> Dirk,
>
> I have sent you a private email with sample VO code and everything
> you need to generate a PDF from a RP report. This code uses an open
> source product and it is a wonderful solution that I have used for
> many years.
>
> Barbara
>
>

Barbara,

I have nothing received.
Please can you send it to "dirk dot herijgers at pbprojects dot be"

Dirk (Belgium)

--

Barbara,

I didn't received the files,
Please send it to my e-mail "bfernandezm at prodigy dot net dot mx"

Thank you,
Benito

"Barbara" escribió en el mensaje de
noticias:4d256378$0$22163$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net. ..

Benito,

Happy to share. I have emailed to the account listed in your signature.


Barbara


On 1/6/2011 2:41 AM, Benito Fernández wrote:
> Hi Barbara
>
> Would you also be so kind to sending me a copy of the code?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Benito Fernández
> bfernandezm at prodigy dot net dot mx
>
> "Barbara" escribió en el mensaje de
> noticias:4d250c97$0$22168$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net. ..
>
> Dirk,
>
> I have sent you a private email with sample VO code and everything you
> need to generate a PDF from a RP report. This code uses an open source
> product and it is a wonderful solution that I have used for many years.
>
> Barbara
>
>
>> richard.townsendrose wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As I have said many times, VO has now got to the stage that Clipper
>>> did - there is nothing more to be developed [apart from FINISHING off
>>> pdf for reportpro 2 - but we all get round that with barbara's
>>> solution or pdf995 or bullzip]
>>>
>>>
>>> richard
>>
>> Richard or anyone else,
>>
>> Can you tell me more about barbara's solution for pdf in reportpro ?
>>
>> Dirk (Belgium)
>>
>

Benito,

I did send the email yesterday to the address you provided. I am
wondering if prodigy is not allowing the email to go through with an
attachment. I have seen this happen with several email servers.

I sent you the body of the email without the ZIP file. Please let me
know if you receive that email. I can always put the ZIP file on my
website if needed.

Barbara



> I didn't received the files,
> Please send it to my e-mail "bfernandezm at prodigy dot net dot mx"
>
> Thank you,
> Benito
>