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Old 06-29-2012, 09:26 PM
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Default There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".

Greetings;
There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.
I would gladly pay for such a software.
"C" will always be around!
Thanks...vmars316...Vernon


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Old 06-29-2012, 10:55 PM
Les Cargill
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Default Re: There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".

vmars316 wrote:
> Greetings;
> There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
> I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.
> I would gladly pay for such a software.
> "C" will always be around!
> Thanks...vmars316...Vernon
>
>



If you can learn them, GUI building in Python or Tcl is pretty easy.
Have the GUI operate your 'C' program via a pipe or through sockets.

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Old 06-29-2012, 10:57 PM
Aaron W. Hsu
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Default Re: There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".

vmars316 <vmars316@live.com> writes:

>There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
>I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.
>I would gladly pay for such a software.
>"C" will always be around!


You must not have searched very hard, because there are plenty.
X-Designer and Builder Xcessory Pro are just two.

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Old 06-30-2012, 06:14 AM
jacob navia
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Default Re: There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".

Le 29/06/12 23:26, vmars316 a crit :
> Greetings;
> There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
> I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.
> I would gladly pay for such a software.
> "C" will always be around!
> Thanks...vmars316...Vernon
>
>


Well, use lcc-win. It features a resource editor and
some time ago it worked still.

It is geared to the windows API.



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Old 06-30-2012, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".

בתאריך יום שישי, 29 ביו*י 2012 22:26:03 UTC+1, מאת vmars316:
> Greetings;
> There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
> I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.
> I would gladly pay for such a software.
> "C" will always be around!
>

Technology is always changing. We just thought that desktop systems had converged on a mouse / windows / menu / keyboard / hierarchical file system / icons interface, when suddenly tablets make an appearance, and mobile phones start becoming used for serious applications.


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Old 06-30-2012, 10:41 AM
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In article <828acf0e-462a-47af-9f2b-29992b08beeb@googlegroups.com>,
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> wrote:
>בתאריך יום שישי, 29 ביו*י 2012 22:26:03 UTC+1, מאת
>vmars316:
>> Greetings;
>> There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
>> I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.
>> I would gladly pay for such a software.
>> "C" will always be around!
>>

>Technology is always changing. We just thought that desktop systems had
>converged on a mouse / windows / menu / keyboard / hierarchical file
>system / icons interface, when suddenly tablets make an appearance, and
>mobile phones start becoming used for serious applications.


.... if you consider "Words With Friends" to be a serious application.

And, not for development; just for end user use.

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Old 06-30-2012, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".

On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:26:03 -0500, vmars316 wrote:

> There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
> I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.


This isn't a C issue. GUI designers are inherently tied to the toolkit,
not the language. If your toolkit doesn't have a designer available, find
one which does.

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Old 06-30-2012, 07:24 PM
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Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:
>On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:26:03 -0500, vmars316 wrote:
>> There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
>> I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.

>This isn't a C issue. GUI designers are inherently tied to the toolkit,
>not the language. If your toolkit doesn't have a designer available, find
>one which does.


More advanced software that has a more dynamic GUI often is
created without a GUI builder. GUI builders offer a quick
start for beginners.

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Old 06-30-2012, 11:59 PM
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בתאריך יום שבת,30 ביו*י 2012 20:24:56 UTC+1, מאת Stefan Ram:
>
> More advanced software that has a more dynamic GUI often is
> created without a »GUI builder«. GUI builders offer a quick
> start for beginners.
>

They're good for intermediate level applications.

If you just need a few buttons, it's often eaiser just to handcode them. Ifyou've got a wonderful and elaborate system with floating and docking everything the GUI builder might not offer enough fexibility. But if you've gotseveral menus and dialogs, but fundamentally strightforwards, a GUI builder can save time.
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Old 07-01-2012, 03:17 AM
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ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
> More advanced software that has a more dynamic GUI often is
> created without a GUI builder. GUI builders offer a quick
> start for beginners.


I argue that beginners should code GUIs by hand, but advanced uses
of the toolkit benefit from industrial-strength GUI builders.

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Old 07-01-2012, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".

Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes:

>If you just need a few buttons, it's often eaiser just to handcode them. If=
> you've got a wonderful and elaborate system with floating and docking ever=
>ything the GUI builder might not offer enough fexibility. But if you've got=
> several menus and dialogs, but fundamentally strightforwards, a GUI builde=
>r can save time.


I agree that some GUI builders might not offer enough flexibility
for elaborate interfaces, but I disagree that these are the sorts
of builders that people should be writing or using. A good GUI
builder supports the integration of user code, custom widgets,
good abstractions of behavior, and ought to scale to complex,
sophisticated GUIs that have a lot of dynamic features. You should
be able to continue using the builder throughout the coding of a
project, and not just as an initial prototype mocker. It should
support your own code seemlessly with continued development of the
application in the GUI as well as the hand-written code.


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Old 07-01-2012, 04:09 AM
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On 30-Jun-12 05:41, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <828acf0e-462a-47af-9f2b-29992b08beeb@googlegroups.com>,
> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Technology is always changing. We just thought that desktop systems had
>> converged on a mouse / windows / menu / keyboard / hierarchical file
>> system / icons interface, when suddenly tablets make an appearance, and
>> mobile phones start becoming used for serious applications.

>
> ... if you consider "Words With Friends" to be a serious application.


It _is_ a "serious" application: people were paid real money to write
it, and Zynga gets real money from customers and advertisers.

S

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Old 07-01-2012, 04:11 AM
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On 30-Jun-12 14:24, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:
>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 16:26:03 -0500, vmars316 wrote:
>>> There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".
>>> I've searched the web up and down, but still no such thing.

>> This isn't a C issue. GUI designers are inherently tied to the toolkit,
>> not the language. If your toolkit doesn't have a designer available, find
>> one which does.

>
> More advanced software that has a more dynamic GUI often is
> created without a »GUI builder«. GUI builders offer a quick
> start for beginners.


That does not change that fact that _C itself_ does not have a GUI.

There are numerous GUI toolkits available that happen to use C, and most
(if not all) of them have GUI builders.

So, what exactly is your proposal?

S

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Old 07-13-2012, 09:09 PM
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Default RE: There is still a great need for a "C GUI Designer/Builder".

My fault for not mentioning 'for Windows', or crossPlatform.
I will take a look at lcc-win's resource editor.
Since Posting I found:
PellesC also, has a great DialogEditor.
Not a real CGui, but comes the closest so far.
I wrote a GUI for HotBasic.
http://www.quickerthanaspark.com/hbDesign/hbDesign.html
It quite simply writes out code for the Visual-Controls, nothing else.
And yes, I would expect a CGui would write the WinAPI code for 'C'.

Thanks...Vernon

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"All things in moderation, except for love and forgiveness."


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