Re: The Onomastics of BASIC compilers

-> balance I feel the BBC's name still has some cachet (although probably
-> not in the US).

In North America, the BBC's name is associated with "quality" TV
programming, rather better than is usually found on the local networks.
This is actually a rather mistaken impression. Organizations such as
PBS select the best BBC programs they can obtain and show them,
ignoring the Beeb's less-desirable products. However, the association
with quality can't do your BASIC any harm. Stick with the name!

dow

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0600, David Williams wrote:

> -> balance I feel the BBC's name still has some cachet (although probably
> -> not in the US).
>
> In North America, the BBC's name is associated with "quality" TV
> programming, rather better than is usually found on the local networks.
> This is actually a rather mistaken impression. Organizations such as
> PBS select the best BBC programs they can obtain and show them,
> ignoring the Beeb's less-desirable products. However, the association
> with quality can't do your BASIC any harm. Stick with the name!
>
> dow

Not all North Americans support your view re: BBC and programming quality.
I'm not saying one way or the other, just maybe it's not fair to represent
your feelings as those of North Americans in general.

BBC Basic is a good product that can stand on it's own AFAIK.

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HK

"H-Man" <I-Hate@Spam.sucks> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0600, David Williams wrote:
>
>> -> balance I feel the BBC's name still has some cachet (although probably
>> -> not in the US).
>>
>> In North America, the BBC's name is associated with "quality" TV
>> programming, rather better than is usually found on the local networks.
>> This is actually a rather mistaken impression. Organizations such as
>> PBS select the best BBC programs they can obtain and show them,
>> ignoring the Beeb's less-desirable products. However, the association
>> with quality can't do your BASIC any harm. Stick with the name!
>>
>> dow
>
> Not all North Americans support your view re: BBC and programming quality.
> I'm not saying one way or the other, just maybe it's not fair to represent
> your feelings as those of North Americans in general.

I really like the older shows - As Time Goes By, Are You Being Served?,
Butterflies,
Keeping Up Appearances. It takes years before Mountain Lake PBS gets BBC
shows.

Tom Lake

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:12:38 -0500, Tom Lake wrote:

> "H-Man" <I-Hate@Spam.sucks> wrote in message
> news:473c8879$0$68450$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.oct anews.com...
>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0600, David Williams wrote:
>>
>>> -> balance I feel the BBC's name still has some cachet (although probably
>>> -> not in the US).
>>>
>>> In North America, the BBC's name is associated with "quality" TV
>>> programming, rather better than is usually found on the local networks.
>>> This is actually a rather mistaken impression. Organizations such as
>>> PBS select the best BBC programs they can obtain and show them,
>>> ignoring the Beeb's less-desirable products. However, the association
>>> with quality can't do your BASIC any harm. Stick with the name!
>>>
>>> dow
>>
>> Not all North Americans support your view re: BBC and programming quality.
>> I'm not saying one way or the other, just maybe it's not fair to represent
>> your feelings as those of North Americans in general.
>
> I really like the older shows - As Time Goes By, Are You Being Served?,
> Butterflies,
> Keeping Up Appearances. It takes years before Mountain Lake PBS gets BBC
> shows.
>
> Tom Lake

I do too, add Fawlty Towers to the list for me, and Monty Python for that
matter. Absolutely hilarious! Love Mr. Bean too.

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HK

On 11/15/07 2:17 PM, in article
473c9b52$0$68466$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews .com, "H-Man"
<I-Hate@Spam.sucks> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:12:38 -0500, Tom Lake wrote:
>
>> "H-Man" <I-Hate@Spam.sucks> wrote in message
>> news:473c8879$0$68450$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.oct anews.com...
>>> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:58:38 -0600, David Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>> -> balance I feel the BBC's name still has some cachet (although probably
>>>> -> not in the US).
>>>>
>>>> In North America, the BBC's name is associated with "quality" TV
>>>> programming, rather better than is usually found on the local networks.
>>>> This is actually a rather mistaken impression. Organizations such as
>>>> PBS select the best BBC programs they can obtain and show them,
>>>> ignoring the Beeb's less-desirable products. However, the association
>>>> with quality can't do your BASIC any harm. Stick with the name!
>>>>
>>>> dow
>>>
>>> Not all North Americans support your view re: BBC and programming quality.
>>> I'm not saying one way or the other, just maybe it's not fair to represent
>>> your feelings as those of North Americans in general.
>>
>> I really like the older shows - As Time Goes By, Are You Being Served?,
>> Butterflies,
>> Keeping Up Appearances. It takes years before Mountain Lake PBS gets BBC
>> shows.
>>
>> Tom Lake
>
> I do too, add Fawlty Towers to the list for me, and Monty Python for that
> matter. Absolutely hilarious! Love Mr. Bean too.

Yes, all of those.

I also remember when PBS carried Doctor Who... And how funny it was that
they thought the newer shows (with Sylvester McCoy) were special and showed
them during their pledge drives, when the older ones were so much better.

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:33:54 -0500, winston19842005
<bjjlyates@bellsouth.net> wrote:

<snip>
>
>I also remember when PBS carried Doctor Who... And how funny it was that
>they thought the newer shows (with Sylvester McCoy) were special and showed
>them during their pledge drives, when the older ones were so much better.

PBS, at least in Chicago on WTTW, has Dr Who - the latest incarnation.
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On Nov 15, 7:17 pm, H-Man <I-H...@Spam.sucks> wrote:
> Love Mr. Bean too.

Mr. Bean? That's never been a BBC show, has it? Is this an example
of the BBC getting the credit for all (good) British TV shows shown in
America, even if they come from one of the other companies?

Richard.
http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/
To reply by email change 'news' to my forename.

On Nov 15, 2:20 pm, "n...@rtrussell.co.uk" <n...@rtrussell.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Nov 15, 7:17 pm, H-Man <I-H...@Spam.sucks> wrote:
>
> > Love Mr. Bean too.
>
> Mr. Bean? That's never been a BBC show, has it? Is this an example
> of the BBC getting the credit for all (good) British TV shows shown in
> America, even if they come from one of the other companies?
>
> Richard.http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/
> To reply by email change 'news' to my forename.

The BBC's commercial arm markets a number of non-BBC British shows to
North America, so BBC America and BBC Canada both show non-BBC
content. And PBS doesn't generally say whether a British TV show is
BBC, ITV, C4 or whatever. It just shows it. You'd need to watch the
credits at the end before you realised that it was British but not
BBC.

Cheers

Derek

"Derek" <derekrss@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> On Nov 15, 2:20 pm, "n...@rtrussell.co.uk" <n...@rtrussell.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > On Nov 15, 7:17 pm, H-Man <I-H...@Spam.sucks> wrote:
> >
> > > Love Mr. Bean too.
> >
> > Mr. Bean? That's never been a BBC show, has it? Is this an example
> > of the BBC getting the credit for all (good) British TV shows shown in
> > America, even if they come from one of the other companies?
> >
> > Richard.http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/
> > To reply by email change 'news' to my forename.
>
> The BBC's commercial arm markets a number of non-BBC British shows to
> North America, so BBC America and BBC Canada both show non-BBC
> content. And PBS doesn't generally say whether a British TV show is
> BBC, ITV, C4 or whatever. It just shows it. You'd need to watch the
> credits at the end before you realised that it was British but not
> BBC.
>

It must depend on the PBS stations. In Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Texas, all
BBC shows have the distinct "World" title page, and others have a simple
"Courtesy of .." with the ITV, C4, etc page. At least for the last twenty
years anyway.

Admittedly they occasionally go by very quickly. <g>

-ralph

On Nov 16, 7:18 am, "Ralph" <nt_consultin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Derek" <derek...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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>
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>
>
> > On Nov 15, 2:20 pm, "n...@rtrussell.co.uk" <n...@rtrussell.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > On Nov 15, 7:17 pm, H-Man <I-H...@Spam.sucks> wrote:
>
> > > > Love Mr. Bean too.
>
> > > Mr. Bean? That's never been a BBC show, has it? Is this an example
> > > of the BBC getting the credit for all (good) British TV shows shown in
> > > America, even if they come from one of the other companies?
>
> > > Richard.http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/
> > > To reply by email change 'news' to my forename.
>
> > The BBC's commercial arm markets a number of non-BBC British shows to
> > North America, so BBC America and BBC Canada both show non-BBC
> > content. And PBS doesn't generally say whether a British TV show is
> > BBC, ITV, C4 or whatever. It just shows it. You'd need to watch the
> > credits at the end before you realised that it was British but not
> > BBC.
>
> It must depend on the PBS stations. In Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Texas, all
> BBC shows have the distinct "World" title page, and others have a simple
> "Courtesy of .." with the ITV, C4, etc page. At least for the last twenty
> years anyway.
>
> Admittedly they occasionally go by very quickly. <g>
>
> -ralph- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh well, that's good. I haven't noticed the Seattle PBS station doing
that but maybe they do and I'm just unobservant.

Cheers

Derek