Toad Alternative

Is there any multithreaded tool like toad, it should be cheaper then it
though

"Alexb" <alexbeauc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is there any multithreaded tool like toad, it should be cheaper then it
> though
>

sqlplus?

"Alexb" <alexbeauc@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is there any multithreaded tool like toad, it should be cheaper then it
> though
>

pl/sql developer

"Dave" <x@x.com> wrote:


>> Is there any multithreaded tool like toad, it should be cheaper then it
>> though


>sqlplus?


LOL! Seriously though, you could give this a test run
http://www.upscene.com/ - it appears to have good reviews and you can
download a trial.


Paul...


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When asking database related questions, please give other posters
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The exact text and/or number of error messages is useful (!= "it didn't work!").
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Furthermore, as a courtesy to those who spend
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do not top post.

"Paul" <paul@see.my.sig.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave" <x@x.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Is there any multithreaded tool like toad, it should be cheaper then it
>>> though
>
>
>>sqlplus?
>
>
> LOL! Seriously though, you could give this a test run
> http://www.upscene.com/ - it appears to have good reviews and you can
> download a trial.
>
>
> Paul...
>
>
> --
>
> plinehan __at__ yahoo __dot__ __com__
>
> XP Pro, SP 2,
>
> Oracle, 9.2.0.1.0 (Enterprise Ed.)
> Interbase 6.0.1.0;
>
> When asking database related questions, please give other posters
> some clues, like operating system, version of db being used and DDL.
> The exact text and/or number of error messages is useful (!= "it didn't
> work!").
> Thanks.
>
> Furthermore, as a courtesy to those who spend
> time analysing and attempting to help, please
> do not top post.

im serious about sqlplus - its free and does a lot of things

It is free and technically does everything that is true. But that is
like someone saying they are looking for a gui (which they are
presumably if they are using TOAD currently)and telling them that they
can do everything from the command line. It is strictly speaking true,
but it isnt really what they want/need.

Besides, sqlplus isnt multithreaded last time I looked although you are
certainly free to fire it up as many times as you like if you so
desire.

I have used PL/SQL developer for several years and am a big fan. It
isnt 0 cost but it isnt too expensive ($180+$60/yr maintenance).

When ever I am looking at the cost of a tool for someone I do a quick
estimate of how much time they are going to waste as a result of not
having the tool and how much that costs them in terms of salary. It is
truly amazing how many tools become an easier sell when you realize
that even if they save you an hour a week they are a net benefit. Of
course "tools" usually comes out of a different bit of the budget than
"salary" so that is always a fun conversation. Personally I think this
little exercise is just as valid for "personal" tools for a small shop
(solo consultant for instance) because anything that increases your
productivity and/or cuts the amount of overtime that is required is a
good thing if the costs make sense.

Rob

and yes I need to get a real newsfeed

Seriously all the tools mentioned are not multithreaded, they are all
too cluttered for my taste. I found something at
http://www.oncilla.com, it is still a beta did anyone try this tool?

3 of us mentioned plsql developer and it most certainly is
multi-threaded. Although you can chose to use it in single threaded
mode if you are really masochistic.

I looked at oncilla and am kind of wondering what you mean by other's
being too "cluttered". I thought that oncilla's UI looked striking like
PLSQL developer's.

By cluttered I meant too many buttons which you probably never use. I
think oncilla's UI is closer to toad though. It has code folding and
links, thats a really cool new feature.

> Seriously all the tools mentioned are not multithreaded, they are all

Database Workbench is multi-threaded for running queries.

It's not multi-threaded for connecting or loading metadata objects
though.


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Alexb wrote:
> By cluttered I meant too many buttons which you probably never use. I
> think oncilla's UI is closer to toad though. It has code folding and
> links, thats a really cool new feature.

You can configure PL/SQL Dev's tool bar and take out buttons you don't
want, or add your own. Same goes for the navigator, and to some extent
the right-click menu, Explain Plan and the sessions monitor. I think if
you take the trouble to go through the options you can make it pretty
much the tool you want. And it's multithreaded ;-)

I like the look of the code folding feature in Oncilla, though I'm not
sure what the Internet Hot Links thing is meant to do.

When you are looking at the PLSQL spec the functions/procedures become
hotlinks clicking them will lead you to the actual code in the Body. It
also identifies packages in the code and creates them as links, its
cool especially if you are working in a E Business database with so
much code you can get lost. You have to play around in it to see what I
am talking about.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:58:23 +0200, "Martijn Tonies"
<m.tonies@upscene-removethis.nospam.com> wrote:

>
>Database Workbench is multi-threaded for running queries.
>
>It's not multi-threaded for connecting or loading metadata objects
>though.
>


And again a thread like this has resulted in the inevitable
self-marketing, which should be correctly identified as *SPAM*


--
Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA

Alexb wrote:
> When you are looking at the PLSQL spec the functions/procedures become
> hotlinks clicking them will lead you to the actual code in the Body. It
> also identifies packages in the code and creates them as links, its
> cool especially if you are working in a E Business database with so
> much code you can get lost. You have to play around in it to see what I
> am talking about.

In PL/SQL Dev, the Control key does something similar, i.e. links to
source code/spec. I'm not sure what difference E Business makes though.